[splunge (old)]

hi all,
ive recently decided to try my hand at Linux.
ive been a Microsoft user for all of my computing history and decided to explore alternatives.
long story short.....
installed suse 9.1
installed mozilla browser = all ok
installed nvidia drivers = all ok
installed quake 3 + Urt = all ok
played q3/Urt = not good.
plays fine but without sound!!!
ive posted on a couple of linux forums and the general replys are disabling sound servers and such, but this means nothing to me and when i follow there instructions....it still doesnt work.....

any ideas or is it a case of use windows/winex??

Cheers guys.

[HoboHumpinSlut (old)]

you use wine to play urt/q3? lol

get the friggin linux binary

[splunge (old)]

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you use wine to play urt/q3? lol

get the friggin linux binary

Erm, no.
My final words were, is it a case of use windows/winex??..........i know this would work but it kinda defeats the purpose to trying linux.

Is there many Linux users on this forum?

cheers

[HoboHumpinSlut (old)]

probably more in the linux forum

if your only problem is the sound i got some questions for you:

1. what soundcard you got?
2. do 'lsmod|grep snd' and post output here (sound modules loaded)
3. 'ps -A|grep artsd' <- should produce no output (ARTS daemon, KDE)
4. 'ps -A|grep esd' <- should produce no output (gnome's sound daemon)
5. start quake3 from a terminal and look for the sound section (paste here too)

[splunge (old)]

Hey, thx for replying. Im at work at the moment but I'll check when I get in and see what it says.
All those commands mean nothing to me, but I guess you pick these things up as you go along right


Later

[splunge (old)]

Hi,
ok in answer to your post earlier

1) I have a SB 5.1 Live (alos had the same problem with onboard AC97 audio)
2)lsmod|grep snd gives this
snd_seq_oss 30976 0
snd_pcm_oss 56868 0
snd_mixer_oss 18688 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi 8864 0
snd_emu10k1_synth 8448 0
snd_emux_synth 38528 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 7552 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_event 7680 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi
snd_seq_midi_emul 7680 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq 54672 9 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi_emul
snd_via82xx 24224 0
snd_mpu401_uart 7808 1 snd_via82xx
snd_emu10k1 86916 5 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi 24992 4 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm 96776 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_emu10k1
snd_timer 25476 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_seq_device 8328 7 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 60676 2 snd_via82xx,snd_emu10k1
snd_page_alloc 11012 3 snd_via82xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 4992 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 9732 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd 59524 29 snd_seq_oss,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore 8800 1 snd
gameport 4736 2 snd_via82xx,emu10k1_gp
3)didnt produce ouput...as you said
4)no output again...as suggested
5)
------- sound initialization -------
/dev/dsp: No such file or directory
Could not open /dev/dsp
------------------------------------


Hope this means somehting to you....im lost outside of windows...id like it to change though, but i primarily use my comp for games, so without it, its not much use to me.

thanks again.

[HoboHumpinSlut (old)]

looks like you dont have /dev/dsp

for me /dev/dsp is a symlink to /dev/sound/dsp

$ ls -l /dev/dsp*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 9 2004-09-29 21:44 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp

maybe you just need to establish the symlink to your real device.
this is done using 'ln -s' ('man ln' for info)

anyway, if you do 'find /devq |grep dsp' you should be able to find the real device to link to. this is what i got:

$ find /dev/ |grep dsp
/dev/dsp
/dev/adsp
/dev/sound/dsp
/dev/sound/adsp

(note that the 1st 2 are symlinks to the other 2)

it could also just be file permissions that youre missing though.

[splunge (old)]

Hi, thanks again for the reply, if i dont ge it workimg after all this, im going to the zoo and castrating a Penguin!!!
i ran $ ls -l /dev/dsp* and got the following :

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2004-09-22 17:59 /dev/dsp -> /dev/sound/dsp

The /dev/dsp bit is in red and if i navigate to the dev folder using knoquer, i find the dsp link file has a lock on it and i dont have a sound folder within /dev, I have /dev/snd but no dsp files are in there!

Have i screwed up my install somehow?
Sorry to keep asking dumb questions and if there is a page i should be reasding then PLEASE post the link..........unless you have spare time to keep posting

Cheers

[HoboHumpinSlut (old)]

well, google for 'alsa' and youll find the pages you want to see.

the alsa modules loaded seem fine, youre just missing the dsp device somehow. dont ask me why. maybe search the suse forums too.

you might also want to check the #linux channels on the irc networks.

[splunge (old)]

Hi, got sorted in the end, but I still dont know what the solution really was

I had Mandrake 9 on cd an installed that, installed quake3 then Urt and everything worked first time.

not sure if it was a distro thing or a kernel thing, Mandrake 9 uses kernel 2.4 not 2.6........I think.

Anyway, thanks for all your help.

cheers