[KarlMariaSeeberg]

uh.. just a quick reply...

so do i get this right?
the feeling of the game is not held together anymore by one consistent physics/ movement concept but is defined by whatever mapcreators decide should be possible?

so there won't be a way for me to predict and execute jumps based on my experience with the engine since the map makers will decide what urt feels like? not one of them of course but the sum of all the stuff mapmakers put out will form what urt hd feels like?

e.g. in urt 4.2 i know how far a walljump will take me, in urt hd said jump might not carry me far enough to reach a certain spot, so the mapmaker won't change the map to fit the engine's limits but will instead increase the distance my jump will carry me? is this the way it's going to work? if so, this sounds rather inconsistent. the appeal of urt 4.1/4.2 (for me at least) was that you could get better depending on how well you knew the engine. if the physics now are all over the place/ map, then i am afraid this game will lose its tight, difficult to master feel.

say it ain't so!

follow-up: you didn't answer whether or not we will have all the jumps we know on those classic maps (uptown, casa, abbey, etc.).

This post has been edited by KarlMariaSeeberg: 28 March 2015 - 04:28 AM

[FS Frankie V]

There will only be one game physics which is what Barbie is working on.

Expecting a given map will have the identical jumps as in 4.2 would be the same if the same limitations, blocking, is put into place but the blocking in place now is to prevent the players from getting into performance problems. Abby for example the players will be able to run across the roof tops with out loss to top performance and frame rates due to vis problems. So yeah the same jumps will be there as UrT 4.2 being the game blueprint, road map, with a few more that could not be done based on design limitations.

It's not a technical issue but a design decision and choice on the part of the mapmaker what they will or will not allow as part of their map design and no real way to tell what will happen until a map, like Abby or Casa is tested under real time game play.

But

Unlike working in GDK a mapper can easily move things around with out fear of being locked into a given design and they can move things around or add map objects to make a map a jump map.

[FS CMM|Johnnyenglish]

I thought I'd jot down my progress of a ut4->ue4 map conversion project Here for anyone who's interested.

[<AnonDafb]

I have a little question. What's the more easy way? Start by Radiant and pass it to Ue4, or start with Ue4?

This post has been edited by AnonDafb: 28 March 2015 - 11:04 AM

[FS Frankie V]

Short answer neither.

For HD Radiant should be used only to harvest the .map file of a work in progress that one wishes to convert to HD. The use is to help maintain the original layout or to do a 1-1 conversion as well to set up the asset or source chain to the FBX file that you will be importing into UE4.

UE4 does have some in editor editing using brushes but it's more of a world builder and the preferred application for making the actual map is some form of 3d editor.

The building of the map it's self is based once again on the modular design of UE4 being a world builder that really needs the addition of a 3D editor, like Blender 3ds Max or Maya, that you import the map to be placed into UE4.

[wG*Swiiitan]

Let me get this straight: In Unreal Tournament Alpha, the maps are created by "Brushwork"(Its called brushes in Radiant) and then once they have found a working layout, they start replacing the "Brushes" with models, am i right?

So you Don't need a 3D editor to make a map!
Sure the maps will not be of the greatest quality if you only make it with brushwork BUT it is possible!

But yeah as KarlMariaSeeberg said, i will not start mapping until the UrTHD movement blueprint is done and handed to the people.
Because i can not make the jumps without knowing how the movement will work and i want my jumps to be straight (:

[Jhoosantos97]

This post has been edited by Jhoosantos97: 28 March 2015 - 07:25 PM

[=IvN=ottone]

AnonDafb, on 28 March 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:

I have a little question. What's the more easy way? Start by Radiant and pass it to Ue4, or start with Ue4?

It's not a good idea starting a map with GTK and import it into UE editor, but it's only my opinion.
here a tutorial to have a right proportion about wall, door and ceiling:

[Jhoosantos97]

Aaaand 3 hours before starting, i just finished my first blueprint, which is a simple toggle "turn on/off light" that activates when we get closer xD ( tutorial - UE ).

This post has been edited by Jhoosantos97: 29 March 2015 - 03:01 AM

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