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#1 User is offline   Magister Icon

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:25 AM

Does this map exist anymore and is it compatible with the latest version? I have memories of fun with it.
Here's a short video I found so you can see what I'm talking about:


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Posted 26 August 2016 - 01:46 PM

Hey Magister,

If you want to play the original ut_sands you would need to one of the 2.x to 3.x Urban Terror versions, which require Q3.

To do so, you can find old UrT versions on the Urban Zone website: http://urban-zone.or...&c=7&s=3&page=1
I'll let you google yourself how to get Q3 and it's license key.

You could also try to extract the map file from the 2/3.x UrT files and load the map on UrT 4, but you'll certainly get a bunch of missing textures.


In early 2012, NRGizer released a bunch of his maps packed so that people could update/rework them. I'm not sure if it's the exact same version as the old ones though. And, for sands, I'm afraid the copter trigger is broken. You can find the map there: http://urban-zone.or...nloads&get=1190


This topic might be useful: http://www.urbanterr.../28042-nrgizer/

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 06:46 PM

While i guess you could get the basic tris and stuff to work in UrT (possibly needing to decompile and rebuilt the map) i dont think that we have a feature like the one shown there, that would allow you to select a destination for that chopper in 4.x.

The topic biddle linked though says that the chopper works in "HD", which i guess refers to the idtech based attempt at a new version done during that time. So maybe it could work in 4.x.



//edit iye:
"bad" news: that map downloaded for 6th floor appears to be corrupted, as UrT (as well as 7zip, which is the bigger problem here) fail to open the archive.

//edit2 iye:
good news!: i figured i have a map repo of my own locally(think its a copy of FA's repo), and it actually contains ut4_sands, in a version that loads and stuff. Loaded it up in 4.2.023, got a couple of missing textures (skybox, water, tents, and a few lamps). Sadly that chopper menu doesnt work. something is there, while you hold down the interact key, but you dont get any sort of menu or selection, and blindly selecting doesnt work either.

This post has been edited by Iye: 26 August 2016 - 07:04 PM

Sorry for my bad spelling - I am still asleep. :)

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 06:59 PM

View PostIye, on 26 August 2016 - 06:46 PM, said:

that map downloaded for 6th floor appears to be corrupted, as UrT (as well as 7zip, which is the bigger problem here) fail to open the archive.


I'm not sure what 6th floor did with their map repository but every single one appears to be corrupted so i wouldn't count on it being a reliable place to download maps anymore...

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 07:04 PM

well, i found a working version, see my edit above.
Sorry for my bad spelling - I am still asleep. :)

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:26 PM

I updated the URL linking the UZ repo instead.

Thanks for the info regarding the 6th map repo, I informed Clan6th about it.

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Posted 27 August 2016 - 03:52 AM

View PostIye, on 26 August 2016 - 06:46 PM, said:

good news!: i figured i have a map repo of my own locally(think its a copy of FA's repo), and it actually contains ut4_sands, in a version that loads and stuff. Loaded it up in 4.2.023, got a couple of missing textures (skybox, water, tents, and a few lamps). Sadly that chopper menu doesnt work. something is there, while you hold down the interact key, but you dont get any sort of menu or selection, and blindly selecting doesnt work either.


Even without riding the chopper I enjoyed playing this map. What kind of work is needed to fix the map up to be compatible with the current version? Is it difficult to just add those missing textures?

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Posted 27 August 2016 - 01:40 PM

the missing textures shouldnt be too big of an issue. if one could find the original ones, adding them would be trivial, otherwise you would have to "choose" one. like, pick the ryadh skybox.

I guess with a bit of work you could even make the chopper fly around the map in a regular pattern...


Maybe, i find time and feel like it, i will do that...

no promise though :)
Sorry for my bad spelling - I am still asleep. :)

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:52 PM

I'll look into why the map repo isn't working.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention :tongue:
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Posted 08 October 2016 - 07:12 PM

This sounds like a fun little project :)

Just looks like the func_keyboard_interface ent is missing.
will have look at old version and see if it is there :)

EDIT: nvm, found it. not where i was expecting it to be.

EDIT2: spent quite a few hours on this now. heli is not repairable easily, would need hundreds of renames >.<. but i've fixed the missing textures/shaders. so you can now actually play the map :D

you can download it from here:
http://files.pretsel...sands_43fix.pk3

be sure to delete any other ut4_sands that you may have

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