[Lliil]

Hey Guys,

i started this thread because i am looking for an extensive or full "urbanterror.def"-file and "entities.def"-file. i know that there are different ones around.

I worked with 2 very good files, where MacRadiant shows the exact wireframes of weapon entities and lights were shown as circles. i remember when right-clicking there was even "sun_light" after the "light"-entry in the menubar.

i destroyed my installation by accident and lost these good "def"-files.. After reinstalling i worked with other .def-files, where weapon-entities, lights ,info_player_starts, etc. just showing up as green squares in MacRadiant. Furthermore, when i do a func_breakable, the selected brushes become invisible in UrT, although they were correct textured.

i know there are .def-files for measurements, too...

so, can we use this thread to gather the most-working, full-blown .def-files?


EDIT: found good .def-files in KroniK's UrT-Mapping_Package: https://www.urbanter...apping-package/

Quote:
Entities (can be accessed from the right click menu in radiant):
-measurements.def - includes blocks to help measure jump distances etc.
-urbanterror.def - includes the new jump mode stuff
-urbanterror_bump.def - not sure exactly what this does.
-ut_item_drop.def - includes all UrT weapons and ammo and accessories.
-nem.def - a set of entities created by nemNEMnem


Thank you Kronik for these files.
I zipped them separatly and uploaded them to my public dropbox:
https://www.dropbox....Archiv.zip?dl=0
Is this ok?

This post has been edited by Lliil: 24 May 2018 - 10:58 AM

[Lliil]

Update:

I think Kroniks files where my files i worked with in the beginning. All entities work fine i created before in my map.

But now i got the problem again, that all NEW weapon-entities and func_breakable-brushes i am creating are not showing up in UrT but they are there in my Macradiant v 1.4.

see the pictures:




the lower roomwindows's texture is not visible anymore after i do func_breakable on it. but it is there - cant walk through.

Is this a compiling problem?

for compilation i use q3map2gui, which comes with macradiant....

compile log:

Spoiler

********************* STARTING COMPILATION ********************

2.5.11
Q3Map         - v1.0r (c) 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.11
GtkRadiant    - v1.4.0 May 14 2006 17:27:02
A well-oiled toaster oven
VFS Init: /Users/Linus/.q3a/baseq3/
VFS Init: /Applications/ioquake3/baseq3/

--- BSP ---
-bsp argument unnecessary
Creating meta surfaces from brush faces
Loading /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.map
entering /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.map
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/tapete1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t24b
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/lino1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/tapete_herz
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t13b
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/floor2
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/tapete8
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/tapete7_a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/tapete7_b
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/view1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/tapete7_c
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t12
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/texture10
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/tapete3
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/nw1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/bbq/01_ceiling00
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/holz1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/photorealistic_wood/wood020
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/mat1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/ut_prague/wood13
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t11
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t11a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/leather1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t13a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t14a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/water/water_flow
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t13
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t14
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t24
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t23c
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t23a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t21
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t21a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t20
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t20a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t24a
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t23b
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t20b
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/common/mirror2
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/t21b
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/skybox/sky_arc
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/crossing/sw_glass_clear
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/door1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/sofa1
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/unnamed/sa
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/liquids/clear_ripple3
WARNING: Over 90 percent structural map detected. Compile time may be adversely affected.
        0 areaportals
Size: -1672, -2496,  -600 to  1936,  1148,  2048
block size = { 1024 1024 1024 }
Entity 4, Brush 0: Entity leaked
**********************
******* leaked *******
**********************
ERROR: PicoLoadModel: Failed loading model models/mapobjects/visor_posed.md3
--- WriteSurfaceExtraFile ---
Writing /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.srf
Writing /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.bsp
Wrote 3.8 MB (4006600 bytes)
        4 seconds elapsed

********************* BSP PHASE COMPLETED ********************

2.5.11
Q3Map         - v1.0r (c) 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.11
GtkRadiant    - v1.4.0 May 14 2006 17:27:02
A well-oiled toaster oven
VFS Init: /Users/Linus/.q3a/baseq3/
VFS Init: /Applications/ioquake3/baseq3/

--- Vis ---
saveprt = true
Loading /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.bsp
Loading /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.prt
************ ERROR ************
LoadPortals: couldn't read /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.prt


********************* VIS PHASE COMPLETED ********************

2.5.11
Q3Map         - v1.0r (c) 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.11
GtkRadiant    - v1.4.0 May 14 2006 17:27:02
A well-oiled toaster oven
VFS Init: /Users/Linus/.q3a/baseq3/
VFS Init: /Applications/ioquake3/baseq3/

--- Light ---
Fast mode enabled
Lightmap filtering enabled
Ordered-grid supersampling enabled with 4 sample(s) per lightmap texel
Loading /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.bsp
Loading /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.srf
Loading /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.map
entering /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.map
--- SetupGrid ---
Grid size = { 64, 64, 128 }
    68229 grid points
       95 point lights
        5 spotlights
        0 diffuse (area) lights
        0 sun/sky lights
      100 total lights
        0 culled lights
--- TraceGrid ---
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (2)
57 x 57 x 21 = 68229 grid
--- MapRawLightmap ---
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (1)
  2212500 luxels
  1454063 luxels mapped
    47208 luxels occluded
      100 total lights
        0 culled lights
--- IlluminateRawLightmap ---
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (18)
        0 luxels illuminated
--- IlluminateVertexes ---
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (0)
    51379 vertexes illuminated
--- StoreSurfaceLightmaps ---
   434673 luxels used
   360448 luxels stored (120.59 percent efficiency)
     1846 identical surface lightmaps, using 106744 luxels
        0 vertex forced surfaces
        0 vertex approximated surfaces
       22 BSP lightmaps
       22 total lightmaps
      147 unique lightmap/shader combinations
Writing /Applications/ioquake3/q3ut4/maps/unnamed.bsp
Wrote 5.4 MB (5633776 bytes)
       27 seconds elapsed

********************* LIGHT PHASE COMPLETED ********************

Or is it a path problem? I did change the project settings in macradiant correct (q3 modification, fs_game: q3ut4). further path-things to do?


Anybody has a clue for this problem?

This post has been edited by Lliil: 24 May 2018 - 01:13 PM

[FS Mr.Yeah]

Judging from your compile log I can suggest a couple of things:

Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.11

The latest version of q3map2 shipped with GtkRadiant is vFS21, you may want to check if a build is available for your platform.

WARNING: Over 90 percent structural map detected. Compile time may be adversely affected.

You should generally only have brushes which are touching the void as structural, and make every other brush detail. It will speed up your compilation times.

Entity 4, Brush 0: Entity leaked
**********************
******* leaked ******
***********************

Did you make sure your map is entirely contained with a 'hull' made out of structural brushes?


Another thing to look for is avoiding overlapping brushes. These can happen when you extensively copy/paste or clone geometry and are not immediately obvious in the editor view.

You could also check the in-game console and see if it gives you any hints on broken entities.

Hope this helps

[Mod Iye]

Mr.Yeah, on 26 May 2018 - 01:19 PM, said:

You should generally only have brushes which are touching the void as structural, and make every other brush detail. It will speed up your compilation times.

Unless you actually have a sizable vision blocking structures in the center of your map i guess. Otherwise you might end up with all parts of the map being rendered. I recall this nice article about how it was done for casa, but cant find it right now.

[FS Mr.Yeah]

Iye, on 26 May 2018 - 07:25 PM, said:

Unless you actually have a sizable vision blocking structures in the center of your map i guess. Otherwise you might end up with all parts of the map being rendered.

Indeed, but I had a hard time deciding if that applies here from only 2 close-up screenshots.
Going into a detailed explanation of how to optimize your geometry seemed too far out of scope of this post and not really helping with the problem at hand

For those wondering what article Iye is refering to, it's SweetnutZ' Construction informational detailing how he constructed Casa.

This post has been edited by Mr.Yeah: 27 May 2018 - 03:37 PM

[Lliil]

Mr.Yeah, on 26 May 2018 - 01:19 PM, said:

Judging from your compile log I can suggest a couple of things:

Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.11

The latest version of q3map2 shipped with GtkRadiant is vFS21, you may want to check if a build is available for your platform.

WARNING: Over 90 percent structural map detected. Compile time may be adversely affected.

You should generally only have brushes which are touching the void as structural, and make every other brush detail. It will speed up your compilation times.

Entity 4, Brush 0: Entity leaked
**********************
******* leaked ******
***********************

Did you make sure your map is entirely contained with a 'hull' made out of structural brushes?


Another thing to look for is avoiding overlapping brushes. These can happen when you extensively copy/paste or clone geometry and are not immediately obvious in the editor view.

You could also check the in-game console and see if it gives you any hints on broken entities.

Hope this helps

Hey Mr. Yeah and Iye,
thank you for your help...yeah, i am going to check if there is newer version of q3map2 for my mac, although redsaurus' macradiant(1.4)+q3map2-pack worked fine before...

the issue with non-structural brushes may touching the void is a little mysterious for me...i made a huge "room" a "skybox", where i build my map in...

is this method really depreciated?

Maybe the problem was, that i use the lower brush as actual ground in game... i 've done a second ground now:


(the lower brush is just moved down that you can see the "new ground" on top...)...


a quick test showed, that my func_breakable-issue seems to be solved with this changement. but i will do further tests this evening...The PassagePortalFlow-Process is taking real long time now...
EDIT: As you said, have to make more brushes "detail"...

i would upload my map somewhere, if you guys want to have a look over the structure.

Entity 4: This was the old quake3-"visor"-model i placed inside the map :D

This post has been edited by Lliil: 30 May 2018 - 06:50 AM