[Vaughan (old)]

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How many campers does it take to hold down the roof in Armory? Same can be said for Urban. I won't deny the popularity, but being popular doesn't make it a good level.

And....if it were as bad as you make it out to be, it wouldn't be popular. Urban Terror has many different types of gamers as I am sure you know Os....but that doesn't make them bad gamers ya know.

[AKGRIZZLY (old)]

Os is an anti rooftop puritan, that will never change.

[Oswald (old)]

No, I never called the gamers bad, just the level.

[Agent#6 (old)]

The more rooftop snipers the better...

The HK exists solely for that problem! 

[Paradroid (old)]

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Oh, that knock off POS...pfft, I won't eve bother with that. Update it correctly or not at all...

iirc, Wasn't Docks an Action Quake map?

[Oswald (old)]

ah, nope never was during my reign at teh AQMD...

[~SG~Juno]

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No, I never called the gamers bad, just the level.

Os said level is bad so is bad. Despite the community opinion.

[Oswald (old)]

the construction of many old levels are terrible, don't take my opinion ask those who have created levels like INVIS, BK or RabidCow. Streets was one of the worst offenders! Docks could not be "updated" we tried and it failed as it was not updated correctly. Thus the need to go back to square one and start it from scratch. Yeah, I know many will disagree on our decisions and how we develop.

[žalost (old)]

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the construction of many old levels are terrible, don't take my opinion ask those who have created levels like INVIS, BK or RabidCow. Streets was one of the worst offenders! Docks could not be "updated" we tried and it failed as it was not updated correctly. Thus the need to go back to square one and start it from scratch. Yeah, I know many will disagree on our decisions and how we develop.

unupdateable? was it because you would lose all of the models and  some  other entities or was it becuase it was just hopeless to decomp it and retex it?

[Oswald (old)]

It would require a complete rebuild. Doing a half-ass job by updating textures and making some4 "changes" to the level is not accomplished by updating an old level. To have it done correctly requires time and a complete rebuild. We won't "update" Docks without rebuilding from scratch.