[PsyCh0m4n1aC (old)]

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well i thought it may be LR users mostly opposed to it so why not use both.

like i say , visit any european sv, many players use lr&spas.

[mitsubishi]

why not

[dborg (old)]

Sure why not, that's not the issue really. Though lots of LR players don't pick a Spas anymore, I believe that's because many of the items have become very important. There is also the lasersight which is almost a must for any accuracy-conscious auto player, taking up another slot. So if you either want to take a helmet or need a medipak/grenades for teamplay, the Spas is not much of an option. Add to this that auto players already have a good close range weapon and it's difficult to justify.

SR8/Spas owns every distance though, which means that snipers do NOT have a close range vulnerability anymore (quite the opposite) and that can be highly unnerving.  Automatics are still more reliable and versatile, which is why you still need lots of them in teamplay. I also think that an automatic's strength is more cumulative.

<rant>I tend to get annoyed by people saying that automatics are newbie weapons, when they use SR8 and Spas themselves. If every "leet" player would use the SR8, there would be no decent clans left. Owning on publics is not everything, for most it's just practice.</rant>

[mitsubishi]

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<rant>I tend to get annoyed by people saying that automatics are newbie weapons, when they use SR8 and Spas themselves.

nah, sr8 is the noob item

[RahX (old)]

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So if you either want to take a helmet or need a medipak/grenades for teamplay, the Spas is not much of an option.

I don't agree with that. I generally play with M4/spas/medkit. Works great for medding IMO.

[dborg (old)]

"for any accuracy-conscious auto player"

There are some roles in which it is worth it to trade a lasersight for a Spas, but usually it's better in BM to have one excellent weapon than two slightly less excellent weapons. I'd still use a Spas if that wouldn't be the case, since I think it's more fun with a secondary.

[mitsubishi]

laser is like caviare when you starve.