[Rayne]

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When a sr8 player (or psg player too i guess) is running, shoudln't the weapon be down just like the other weapons. I mean, i've got that impression the new version of Urban Terror 4.2 should be as realistic as possible.

Scroll up and you will find the answer.

[pnk|20eazykills]

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I mean, i've got that impression the new version of Urban Terror 4.2 should be as realistic as possible.

Where did you get this impression?

[FS Frankie V]

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When a sr8 player (or psg player too i guess) is running, shoudln't the weapon be down just like the other weapons. I mean, i've got that impression the new version of Urban Terror 4.2 should be as realistic as possible.
If you look at a typical war movie where there is a sniper in the picture, you will never see that a sniper person is running with the weapon up.
If you look for example at USMC, no sniper there would run around with the weapon up like they’re doing in Urban Terror 4.2(atm)?
They're running with the weapon down to the left or right into the chest untill they're gonna shoot, then they're taking up the weapon , scoping and then shooting.

Well one of the first things I did before getting down to work was to get a lot of input from the players themselves and the one of the strongest indications of what they want was a result that was not realism but rather what was realistic.

There is a difference between the two as going for realism is the ideal that if someone shoots you you die which is really what UrT is not about. Realistic is just something that becomes what should be realistically expected. If someone is using a sniper rifle then it is realistic to have a pose that would indicate that posture from one where the player is simply looking around and not using the scope at all.

It’s just realistic to have a means to translate the current 1st person perspective into the 3rd person model and was a rather unfair advantage to the person using the SR8.

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OK, I haven't seen these queries or any post addressing them yet (yes, I read the whole thread and searched, fwiw), so no one snarl at me unless you actually want to me up somewhere to discuss your beef with a tire-iron.

1) Will the first-person gun-view match the third-person gun-view?

2) Will the third-person and first-person views line up accurately, so that if you see someone scoping w/ an SR-8, you will be able to tell (within reason) if they are scoping you?

BTW, Frankie, I do love the SR-8 anims.  They have that old-leather belongs-in-UrT smell.  And I can't wait to see how these actually impact play.

[Mod ObScUrE]

1) No (reloading is added to 3rd person view)



2) Yes

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[FS Frankie V]

1) Will the first-person gun-view match the third-person gun-view?


Yes there will be a much stronger tie in between the 1st and 3rd person views and it is realistically expected that if someone is using the scope then that kind of view should be transferred to the 3rd person model.

P.S. You can’t really use the mirror in dressing room as it does not always reflect properly.


2) Will the third-person and first-person views line up accurately, so that if you see someone scoping w/ an SR-8, you will be able to tell (within reason) if they are scoping you?


Yes with in reason. For that matter the posturing of the 3rd person model will be more realistic to the current action of the player. If a player is running the model will be in a running posture and the same for such action as walking or crouching or firing.

[Dark-knight]

ok frankie im not trying to be rude here but... i think that the back flip is stupid. why would you do a back flip when you /kill? you could have used all that to make a cool /kill animation instead of that crappy back flip.

also the new wounded animation looks like he is trying to do the crab walk.

This post has been edited by Dark-knight: 24 October 2009 - 06:05 PM

[FS Frankie V]

Well the backflip is in as part of one of the death sequences and I’m trying different things to get a more “rewarding” effect. There are about 4 or five different sequences depending on the pose when a player is shot and what you probably have seen is the sequence that is played when someone self kills.

Imagine instead if this is something that you see looking down the scope of the SR8 after taking a headshot. Self-kill will have its own sequence in the end and I’m in the process of tweaking up the final set which will take some time to complete. What we have been showing is nothing more than sequences intended to establish timing as well as to have what is necessary in the md3 files, even if they are not the best results, so that they can be coded into the game.

[Dark-knight]

oh ok thanks for clearing that up