[fr.Biddle]

LinCeX, on 14 November 2015 - 03:08 PM, said:

What would help is to accept game is diying and release urt hd ( when its ready lol ).

Well.. that's what were doing

[ds`killspree]

LinCeX, on 14 November 2015 - 03:08 PM, said:

Dude just take a look at urban zone ( not even going to mention other leagues that now dont even exist) number of clans and compare it to 2011 for example.
The game lost like 80% of his clans .

What would help is to accept game is diying and release urt hd ( when its ready lol ). Because 4.3 is gonna be failure its the same game and ppl is tired of 14 years old graphics.

This game is not about the graphics but about the unique gameplay like I said many times before 4.2 became less popular because of the player animation, because there is no way to remedy this because those animations can't be recovered.

If it where because old style graphics then the game would not have been popular in 2011.

Urban zone is a shame but I rather be part of the solution than to just come here and be like a dogowner who doesn't know how to handle his/her dog and put the dogs face in his poop every time he takes a dump on the carpet.
You don't wanne act that way "Bro" 9 times out of 10 it's the owner and not the dog.

Urban terror doesn't deserver to be treated like that and you should be ashamed of yourself.

This post has been edited by killspree: 14 November 2015 - 05:45 PM

[LinCeX]

killspree, on 14 November 2015 - 05:38 PM, said:

This game is not about the graphics but about the unique gameplay like I said many times before 4.2 became less popular because of the player animation, because there is no way to remedy this because those animations can't be recovered.

If it where because old style graphics then the game would not have been popular in 2011.

Urban zone is a shame but I rather be part of the solution than to just come here and be like a dogowner who doesn't know how to handle his/her dog and put the dogs face in his poop every time he takes a dump on the carpet.
You don't wanne act that way "Bro" 9 times out of 10 it's the owner and not the dog.

Urban terror doesn't deserver to be treated like that and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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[FS Zenity]

LinCeX, on 14 November 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

I dont get what your saying at all , There are free games with bigger everything.

Which?

[BurakQuaresma]

Just wait for UT HD... Im sure it will be extremely popular if everything works as planned. You cant find a game which have Urban Terror like mechanics.. I tried many times to play CS GO but its so ugly for me because the slow movement. In Urban Terror you have a "freedom" like feel. I hope UrT HD will realeased soon maybe a indie devloper "steal" the ideas from UrT make their own game and realease it on steam that would be terrible.

[ds`killspree]

they don't know how to circle jump so don't be afraid just yet!

[FS Frankie V]

Well to be a bit more constructive.

Frozen Sand is not your typical games development company like an EA, Epic or even some hack outfit pumping plug-n-play games into Steam but one if not the only mod team still around since the change of the century. :D Yes I said it. ;)

In the late 1900's and early 2000 there were a ton of mod teams working under the EULA for a game called...wait for it... Quake 3 which one could consider the mother ship and Urban Terror being a mod, and still is even though can play standalone, only became popular because of the popularity of the aforementioned game.

Then a bad thing happened. Id dropped support and dumped everything into GPL and Urban Terror lost all access and means of continuing to be a mod under a 15 year old engine and FS was left on it's own to find other means of maintaining of introducing the game to new players with out the stigma of being just another mod using an engine that has been abandoned in favor of new and improved.

That being said.

The people that have worked on Urban Terror and those of us that continue to do so do not get paid beyond the love of the game and FS has always recruited from with in the community talent who could do something as providing a service to maintain the general interest of the community of players.

This BS about FS not catering to the competitive or pub aspects and interests is BS because that is where your current developers (more like caretakers) come from that also includes a much broader range of interests such as Jumpers as well as those interested in developing both pub and competitive aspects of the game.

Urban Terror has and will always continue to live only with the support of the community gamer willing to do something besides nothing and it is of no help that some seem to be intent to shoot the cow just because they had a bad batch of milk that left a sour taste in their mouth.

This game is not dead and will not die as to FS being around as long as there is 100 people still playing the game and will continue to support at least the basic requirements.... until we actually believe the Chicken Little's, close up shop, and all you get from us is a 404.

As well

The “ONLY” way to get back to the same player levels and popularity of 1999 is a million dollar advertising budget as sites that “USE” to take our release announcements don't even return a kind thanks but no thanks e-mail. (maybe I need to sleep with someone first ;) )

Soooo

Yeah we do screw up from time to time but nothing compares to the mess that the community makes of their own backyard because if you expect a group of modders to fix the problems it's not going to happen.

[kit3]

Everyone knows that UrT has been "dead'ish" for several years now, but a game isn't dead as long as there's people playing it tbh.. This is how I feel about it.
I've been playing this game for what seems like forever now (first played it back in 2004), but like the majority of the active players I stopped around the time the first 4.2 version came out, which sadly was also around the time Clan Base closed, with these 2 events happening at the same time its no wonder UrT lost a pretty big amount of players, its surprising there's actually still active leagues I dare say. Lets just face it, Urban Zone was never the "main" UrT league, Clan Base was (keep in mind i have absolutely nothing against UZ), I'm sure people remember the time that Urban Zone matches were never taken as seriously as Clan Base matches, and sometimes were no more than scrims to practice for the CB games.
When it comes to public servers though, I'm pretty sure they play a big part in keeping the game alive imo. I've started playing more actively this year, and more recently I kind of play every night (yea no life), even though there's not a whole lot of servers with players in them you can still get a full server every night, and its a bunch of fun (at least for me it is, probably will always be).
I don't know what can be done to help the game survive these next couple of years, but I'm pretty sure playing the game helps, so I guess I'll do that.

As for the devs, my message for you guys is that I hope you don't give up on the game even though I'm pretty sure if you haven't until now you probably won't. And I hope things go as smoothly as possible with UrT HD.
That's it I guess..

Peace

[fr.Zmb]

BladeKiller, on 13 November 2015 - 09:42 PM, said:

Yep, we made match mode just for laughs. We didn't do it for the competitive scene at all. Of course, pub players say the same thing; i.e. that we only care about competitive players and don't care about pub players. The truth is we care about both and we do what we can with the limited resources we have. I'm amazed that there is a dev team left after all the things that have happened to us.

Wow, you've done one thing in 8 years for competitive urt, gj, sorry for saying u never did anything. Soon u might even do Urt.HD

Anyway, you can also remove groin + butt that are completely unbalanced, ONLY hitting helmets should give the possibility to kill someone with 3 bullets (helm + kevx2), not fkn groin+kevx2, or keep it but put everything to 29dmg except groin and butt still make you bleed, reduce the speed of that bleeding tho.
Make the upper leg slow you again, make lower/upper leg do the same dmg + bleed. For example.

[FS Frankie V]

Zmb, on 16 November 2015 - 12:58 AM, said:

Wow, you've done one thing in 8 years for competitive urt, gj, sorry for saying u never did anything. Soon u might even do Urt.HD

Wrong information.

During the, lets say, assembly of 4.2 we went to the competitive sites and "asked" them what they need as to game improvements that would attract new players and all we got back was spread sheets totally restructuring weapon specifications.

Think about it.

How does changing the specs attract new players?

In all games weapon specs is what it is and there is never a perfect balance because it was then the weapon load out would be unbalanced.

A case in point.

A e-sport organizer showed up one day and posted an offer to organize a ladder event but was shot down by so call professional competitive gamers arguing with him that is not how a cough cough Urban Terror competition is organized. In 2015 this is how e-sports are organized for events with million dollar cash prizes. You have the main event that everyone came for and while the audience waited would watch warm up events, like Urban Terror, that has to be completed in a set time.

This is just one case that has nothing to do with FS but occurs in the "competitive" backyard where those involved in the action should only worry about two things. Where and when to show up for the matches.

As for Urban Zone.

Clan Base got shut down by their own sever host, booted out, and Urban Zone stepped up to save the up coming season as part of their community effort. Once again someone willing to organize something having to put up with the bullshit instead of being applauded as a community hero.

Instead of going on how UZ "stole" clan base why didn't the competitive community help them out setting up new hosting?

The good side of things.

We screwed up on the stamina that broke every jump map. Once again we sent someone over to the Jumpers and asked/said, once again the post is probably still there, that we need their help sorting it out. From "their" community they send over a few of their top jumpers and we together fixed the problem in short order and added a few feature requests at the same time.

The experiences is how it should be with no BS but rather everyone working together to fix a problem.

This is how it is and if the comp scene wants or needs attention then they need to clean up their own backyard first, maybe organize a player association that every other sport has on the planet, as we no longer look at weapons spec changes with out detail reasons and the best thing a comp player can do to help out is to show up when and where organized events are staged under "their" rules.