[FS BladeKiller]

I get stuttering when I increase the netcode values higher than the defaults. Reverting back to the defaults got rid of the stutter. This is easily reproduced by others on the dev team as well. Perhaps those who are getting this stuttering should try changing rate to a lower value and see what happens. No idea if this is the same cause of the stutter these other people are experiencing but it's worth a try.

[KarlMariaSeeberg]

BladeKiller, on 26 April 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

I get stuttering when I increase the netcode values higher than the defaults. Reverting back to the defaults got rid of the stutter. This is easily reproduced by others on the dev team as well. Perhaps those who are getting this stuttering should try changing rate to a lower value and see what happens. No idea if this is the same cause of the stutter these other people are experiencing but it's worth a try.

can you tell me what settings we are talking about exactly and what values are considered default?

[/eVo/Divinity]

I'll give it a try. I think my rate is 25000.

[diRf!Nikki]

BladeKiller, on 26 April 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

I get stuttering when I increase the netcode values higher than the defaults. Reverting back to the defaults got rid of the stutter. This is easily reproduced by others on the dev team as well. Perhaps those who are getting this stuttering should try changing rate to a lower value and see what happens. No idea if this is the same cause of the stutter these other people are experiencing but it's worth a try.

I've already tested this pretty thoroughly for myself and it doesn't work. I have tried minimum, maximum and about 10 values in between for /rate. I've also tried changing cl_maxpackets to numerous different values. Updated, rolled back, etc my video drivers. Me and RJC sat on a server for about 1.5 hours about a week ago going through anything and everything I could change to change the performance and nothing has fixed it (with the stock client) as of yet.

[[Sk&Bh]Txc]

Divinity, on 26 April 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

It's documented in a couple of threads in the 4.2 support area. It's essentially brief pauses in the game (measured maybe in hundedths of a second) that some just make it "jerk" while others halt the entire game for a longer length of time (maybe a second, maybe a few tenths of a second) that make the game nearly unplayable. Certainly not for more than anything other than pubbing it.

Thank you .
So this is how it is called that kind of undisplayed lag .
I would say it really destroys pub games too , I thought it is just me until now , you know it is reasonable to suspect your own senses , too . I will check those treads .

don , who said that people with disabilities are smallminded , they might understand the technical limitations of MD3 .
Besides some people with disabilities can really surprise you & it is not excluded sometimes some to make you feel like you are really the invalid ;) .
Probably you haven't heard of the legendary hero '' One handed Swordsman '' for example .

About the topic people will switch to 4.2 , matter of time .

PS BladeKiller after you like StarCraft you like Alien indirectly at least , btw some (or maybe I shall say a lot ? hmm) parts of alien are literally copy-pasted in StarCraft .
I am not complaining about it still won't mind to hear the HR Giger's honest position .

[SamSpangle]

Nikki, on 26 April 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

I've already tested this pretty thoroughly for myself and it doesn't work. I have tried minimum, maximum and about 10 values in between for /rate. I've also tried changing cl_maxpackets to numerous different values. Updated, rolled back, etc my video drivers. Me and RJC sat on a server for about 1.5 hours about a week ago going through anything and everything I could change to change the performance and nothing has fixed it (with the stock client) as of yet.

Have you tried playing around with the antiwarp setting? I did and and you can make the game unplayable with stutter if you set it too low.


I might barking up the wrong tree here so please don't flame me. Only been running my server for a few days....

[FS Frankie V]

Nikki, on 26 April 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

I've already tested this pretty thoroughly for myself and it doesn't work. I have tried minimum, maximum and about 10 values in between for /rate. I've also tried changing cl_maxpackets to numerous different values. Updated, rolled back, etc my video drivers. Me and RJC sat on a server for about 1.5 hours about a week ago going through anything and everything I could change to change the performance and nothing has fixed it (with the stock client) as of yet.

Can you describe the kind of stutter you are getting?

There seems to be two types.

The one I experienced was a constant stutter almost like frames were being dropped. This turned out to be weak batteries in my wireless mouse but could also indicate interference from a running application in the back ground.

The second seems to be a more general stutter being experienced in a lot of games where the stutter would occur for about a second then smooth for four seconds and then stutter again for a second.

If you Google “video game stuttering” you will find stuttering is a common problem and there has been more than a few different causes as well as solutions.

This is a good video on some things you can try.



On the personal experience side of things I recently upgrade to a new rig with a GeForce GTX 570 with Windows 7 and was not unusual for a while for a game to crash, including UrT, with a time out error that would indicate that Windows 7 was not able to keep up with the video card.

Reverting to a much older driver solved the problem so it might be worth a try of rolling back to an older driver to see if it's driver related.

[FS Frankie V]

As a though maybe try capping FPS at a lower rate?

[/eVo/Divinity]

The question is why does 4.1 NOT do this with practically the same config whereas 4.2 has the stuttering?

There are no other variables to account for on my gaming partition. It has _nothing_ on it except UrT.

This post has been edited by Divinity: 27 April 2013 - 07:28 PM

[GlaD-don]

Txc, on 26 April 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

don , who said that people with disabilities are smallminded , they might understand the technical limitations of MD3 .
Besides some people with disabilities can really surprise you & it is not excluded sometimes some to make you feel like you are really the invalid ;) .
Probably you haven't heard of the legendary hero '' One handed Swordsman '' for example .

Thanks for putting words in my mouth; although, in Bulgaria, perhaps it's the norm to assume physical and mental disabilities go hand-in-hand?

One handed swordsman? Pretty sure Jaime got his ass kicked trying to fight one handed ;)

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About the topic people will switch to 4.2 , matter of time .

People will switch, but only when the option to play 4.1 is taken away. I'd like to see a tidy 4.3 release soon to wrap up the 4.2.x series of released, along with a working updater (I'm sure there are some tutorials online) and an announcement that support for 4.1.1 and 4.2.x has ended. Remove links to 4.1.1 from the site, and push a message from the master server to everyone connecting to 4.1.1 servers that 4.1.1 is outdated.







ps, my fps in 4.2 is fine. Try watching the CPU usage chart (ctrl alt esc) while playing. A lot of FPS issues are due to being maxed out on a single core, rather than being limited by the graphics card.