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Good job, FS!

I see you went for a stealthy way of catching cheaters, and you're on the delayed bans method, more a less like VAC, which is a good philosophy, together with not giving any detail on when/where the cheating occurred - some cheaters might have been trying different hacks, so telling them which one is the detected one is a bad idea.

It's good, then, that you don't release any details on the catches, and it's a safe measure to do so.

Do you guys plan on always doing "waves" of bans? It could be useful if well-timed, both for competition and for cleanliness of the game.

cruntett, on 20 August 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

That would very interesting to see, as in about 150 cheaters out of 80000 Auth accounts doesn't mean much if only (invented number) 5000 accounts are active.

postit, on 20 August 2013 - 12:57 AM, said:

Agreed.

On other games, even people who you had teamed up with for years ended up banned for cheats. It was a shock at first, but after questioned, most had the decency to confess, some even went to the AC authority on that game to send everything they knew about the cheats. Some even became dedicated to AC.

postit, on 20 August 2013 - 12:57 AM, said:

Not even then. There was a cheat on CSS which was installed inside the mouse's profile memory. You could only be certain they were using it by taking a demo and slowing it down significatively, which is very rarely done on LAN Tournaments. The offender was found out and handed by his own clan, though.

Silver Swords, on 19 August 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

On other games there is a temporary 3-month ban for people who have cheat CVARS on their configs. Gives them time to clean it up or ask for someone to help them clean it up.

Repeated offenders are, of course, permanently banned.

kakusho, on 19 August 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

No need.

As explained several times already, they were banned if the cheat was present and turned on.
The detections at this level are not a matter of statistics or luck, they are probably as reliable as saying Earth orbits the Sun.

RaideR, on 20 August 2013 - 01:09 AM, said:

Cheat coders, if they're any smart and grabbed the stolen code, now know exactly what you're looking for and how you did it - unless that part of the code was on a separate server.

Meanwhile, the "original" AC could still protect legit players from released known hacks, which is cool, considering there are quite some known names on the list, provided Auth will work again anytime soon.

Cheers, and I hope you're lucky and the road to AC 2.0 is a smooth one, considering the current state of things.

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And in an instant of deep self consciousness all cheater decided to erect a statue representing Raider as a knight guiding them into the light of honesty! Since that day, no hax has ever been seen again. (what? I have the right to dream too!!).

Hope FS the best for the rest of the AC and the HD :)

This post has been edited by cruntett: 20 August 2013 - 01:57 AM

is fs thinking of ways to earn players' trust in fs' latest and flawless release? .. is this contemplative moment the reason for fs' radio silence towards the doubts that have been raised in this very thread? or is it pure ignorance and the hope that the fuss might simmer down after a while?

you should try to get everyone on board here .. by making this magic list more comprehensible without endangering the software you created ..

based on your silent response i figure there won't be any demos laying around you could provide but you should think of another way to make your claim more credible..

as i said in #98 right now it's way too easy for those accused to deny everything they are accused of..
telling them "we know you did it." won't change their mind and most certainly won't help "the community" in believing in this new tool...

This post has been edited by KarlMariaSeeberg: 20 August 2013 - 02:22 AM

I'm starting to think a lot of people complaining about lack of demos with these bans is more worried about their own future rather than the future of those who were banned.

Or maybe, UrT should use PunkBuster, then they's probably say PB installed hacks on their computer itself.

And to be honest (no offense to the coder of AC), i doubt this AC is using some revolutionary way of detecting cheaters, AC in many different forms exists for a very long time.
If you play another game and you get banned by their AC will you go demand a demo?
LOL if you did you'd end up being laughed at by the a vast majority of the community.
But i guess for that you'd have to play some other games other than UrT.

Amusing thread nevertheless.

This post has been edited by rayne2: 20 August 2013 - 02:43 AM

Português --> Eu ja fui acusado(e condenado) sem ter dado nenhuma disfeita com ninguem no modo URT. Sei que em alguns casos pode aver trapaça mas nen todos.
Queria ver alguma foto, texto ou video onde pode se provar esta acusação.
Exemplo: você esta andando no meio da rua chega um garda é te leva preso, te acusando...??? Qual é a prova ???
Aguardo resposta.

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Inglês --> I've already been accused (and convicted) without having given any disfeita with anyone mode URT. I know that in some cases can aver cheating but all nen.
I wanted to see any photos, text or video where you can prove this accusation.
Example: you are walking in the street comes a garda is stuck takes you, accusing you ...?? What is the proof??
I await response.

Ho Ho Ho HOOO,

all this stuff that happens locks like Last Man Standing to me.

I guess we need some one who draw a line to all of this.

FS I am so sorry what happens to you regarding the code theft but
maybe its your turn now stop that shit storm.

This post has been edited by garcassgrinder: 20 August 2013 - 02:58 AM

tehwally, on 19 August 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Priceless.

Best comment ever these 25 full pages in the thread.

Swaggzilla, on 19 August 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Simply perfect! The satisfaction that I'm feeling is priceless. Players without honor are now in place they deserve. Thank Frozen Sand.

Let's put it this way, for all those believers that think their 'best friend' / 'clanmate' / 'former friend' they've played with for multiple years 'doesn't hack'?

Here's a quote from http://www.yellodyno...ster_stats.html that clearly states, almost 90% of rapists, pedophiles, and psycho killers knew their targets bc they where either...

A: family related

B: friend next door, etc...

• Acquaintance perpetrators are the most common abusers, constituting approximately 70-90% of all reported perpetrators.
-Finkelhor, D. 1994.

• 89% of child sexual assault cases involve persons known to the child, such as a caretaker or family acquaintance.
-Diana Russell Survey, 1978

So now ask yourself this question, "Do you really know who your defending?" (without a reasonable doubt, the only sure fire method is to teamview their comp!)

So quit defending those you don't really know nothing about and move on to something more contructive, like play urt (no pun intended) ;p