matt: In fact you are itself a user of other Open Source projects, but I don't see any collaboration with your upstream.
Frozen Sand is NOT using (and will not use) that fork of ioquake3, but it's using an older version (infact Barba's repo is not a fork, but it's a normal repository with engine source). So how Barbie is supposed to send them pull requests?
matt: Not sure why you expect people to help you on an updater and a forked engine for a closed source game with invite-only development.
As Barbatos stated already, Frozen Sand is NOT an invite only team. I myself joined Frozen Sand without having been invited. I spoke with Barbie, sent my CV to BK/RaideR (or maybe it was Decoy...don't remember), got accepted, signed documents, started working: piece of cake then...It's not hard to join FS: you just don't have to be a douchebag otherwise you can't be trusted by the team.
moonq3: Tried to help, nothing on github to do, said that, got no response.
Helping is not just bugfixing. As Barbatos said no one took the time to check the iobumpy code and tried to merge it with the current engine. What about implementing TCP Rcon? There is a thread somewhere in this forum in which a guy was asking for a remote console....well TCP Rcon would be a start.
hasufell: Open Source alone does not attract anyone.
Yes it does attract someone: people who program cheats. You guys ask for an anticheat and then you ask for open source....do you want an open source anticheat?
That would work.....
Now, we are all grown up people (I hope), so quit bitching and start doing something instead. Bitching won't solve problems: on the contrary it will make devs pissed off and demotivate them (one and probably the main reason why I'm not working on this game anymore). I truly believe that 70% of this community don't deserve anything from Frozen Sand.
This post has been edited by Fenix: 06 June 2014 - 09:13 PM