[mistersamchun]

Good work :)

But there i still have some questions :

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"Start and Finish lines to be placed at the beginning and end of a map."

Will there be a chronometer function available on the new mapping software? (will it be added to gtk?)

I mean, like on defrag q3 mod.

When i see those crystals, i fell frustrated.

Can we finish a jumpmap without collecting all the crystals?

Can we create a jumpmap without crystals to collect? (like on 4.1.1 version)

Will we be able to play on previous versions jumpmaps? such as ut4_ or ut_?

Will the physics change? Will we able to overbounce like on 4.1.1 & q3?

Will there be jumps with weapons? such as a the benelli or the spas like on older versions.


I think that a lot of mappers won't create jumpmaps with crystals :] just to keep 4.1.1 jump style hehe.


Anyway, good work Frozen Sand, keep developping my favorite game ! :D

This post has been edited by mistersamchun: 22 May 2012 - 11:49 AM

[H0i]

Mr.Click, on 22 May 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

Yeah well. In Urban Terror 4.1 is more than sufficient. I don't know how you guys are going to build the new Jump Mode so I just explained how my solution works. But infinite stamina will not be that appreciated. Just go search UrT 4.1 Jump servers...I made a quick search and I found just a single jump server with that patch and it was empty.
On my serverbox I host like 6 Jump Servers. People are keeping in contacting me, asking to host their jump servers because they like the new features we introduced (mostly regain stamina and player position saved permanently).

Unlimited stamina is optional. Maybe even maps can make recommendations about what settings should be used, and servers can choose to directly copy those settings. But obviously a lot of testing needs to be done to see what works and what doesn't. With unlimited stamina you don't have to wait between jumps. With regen you still need to wait a bit. With those checkpoints you can continue immediately but you still need to use your stamina efficiently.

[Fenix]

Well, depends on how you want to use the server. Imho you guys should ask on UrTJumpers forum about innovations and suggestions for the Jump Mode. Those guys are the ones that keep this gametype growing up everyday.
As you may have noticed by Samchun post:

Can we finish a jumpmap without collecting all the crystals?

Can we create a jumpmap without crystals to collect? (like on 4.1.1 version)

Will we be able to play on previous versions jumpmaps? such as ut4_ or ut_?

people like this gametype as it is right now. They maybe want some improvements (mostly to solve problems like blocking) but a lot of the features specified are already available on my jump servers (and not just mine). This doesn't sound like a new Gamtype, but just making better something that has been already made, but not officially.

Moreover, I want to spend some words about what Samchun said about ut4_ and ut_ jump maps. On UrTJumpers is plenty of jump maps, but some map makers doesn't map anymore (The first who come in my mind is RichardYourGod -> Equilibrium). Will be really cool to play those "old" maps also with UrT HD, otherwise I think that players will stick with UrT 4.1 jumping for a long time also when UrT HD will come out, because they can setup servers with tons of jump maps (more maps choice, more fun)

[FS |HSO|RaideR]

Dammed if you do Dammed if you don't!

1st off :) most of these features people are talking about are "Admin / admin then client / client" changeable via server and/or client cvar. So lets not get stuck in the "X will suck" don't use it then.

Remember for noobs to practice some of the features are nice and give them a slow intergration to try without getting really really frustrated.

Also if the map doesn't have crystal or timetrialstart entities in the maps then you wont be able to use the scoring mechanics within the modes. Which is fine for "Jump Training" but not for "Team Jump".

The physics for UrT are unchanged. The jumps possible in 4.x should be just as possible in UrT HD. It will be maps designed for say "Walljumps 5" for example which will end up not with in 4.x.

You forget also that we have Levant on the team, who's reason (mostly speaking) was to make sure that the Jump modes are workable and also to test the features out. If you don't respect his judgement (which you really should) then thats not really our problem.

A majority (apart from Team Jump, which i will boast as "my idea", which i might have stolen, i'm not honestly sure anymore :P) of the features are requested BY the urtjumpers website or its members. FS Activly read there forums for information on the jumping community as a whole.

Unless you have super duper serious reasons why we should not even entertain the idea of "trying something" then just don't bother protesting because we will try it anyway and when/if it doesn't work remove it. I would have hope for more "good works" over "omg you did work, now i dont like it" type comments.

Any more "real" questions?

[pulse]

Oh oh oh! *raises hand*
Raider what about jump tutorials? I mean, i've seen some tutorial maps, but I think nothing would beat an integrated in-game jump tutorial. No one knows the jump mechanics better than the devs right? (This could also be coupled with a in-depth general gameplay tutorial but it's off-topic in this case. I leave the suggestion though :D )

[e-junkie]

*hands raider a cookie*

i'd change the crystals to something more "hardcore"

[SilverFoxZ]

What about Stamina Stimpacks instead of crystals.

[H0i]

The crystals are nice. If you want variety, perhaps maps can be allowed to use custom objects if they want to. This way you can make a collection object with the same theme as the map.

[aI|klabauterman]

This is !

I this very much and hope for a public beta this year...

PsyDuck, on 21 May 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:

There is several jump maps where your supposed to die if fail. It's up to the mappers if they want people to be able to die on there map.

It's already in. Currently you are not fully invincible, you lemming like with /god 1, so you are limping and need to bandage yourself up to full health.
You can swim through lava, but you can die of "well placed HURT". (Tested with Jump Mode of HD Alpha on Superman)

[Fredrik]

H0i, on 22 May 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

The crystals are nice. If you want variety, perhaps maps can be allowed to use custom objects if they want to. This way you can make a collection object with the same theme as the map.

Being able to set the amount of points an object gives? Say if the theme is gems, diamond gives more points than emerald.