[Forge|Freshh]

very nice :)
BUT: Auto is too weak, Sniper too strong and DE is op

This post has been edited by freshh: 10 February 2014 - 02:15 PM

[strayA#fragnetic]

p5yc0runn3r, on 10 February 2014 - 10:49 AM, said:

We are not here to break things as you say it but to improve them.

I'm expressing frustration that a core game mechanic is likely to being changed. There's nothing wrong with hit registration or weapon balance. Your assertion that people got used to the old system by "frenetically moving the cross-hair left and right hoping to hit" is completely wrong and a worrying statement considering who you are.

Can somebody explain to me what's wrong with the current system?

[p5yc0runn3r]

Since the current system can only hit (in longer sprays) by doing that left-right movement...then yes I stand by my comment. BUT I also stand by my comment since I know how the code works. And the current code is 'luck' based.

I will show later on the details with pictures.

[strayA#fragnetic]

I'm not arguing with your assertion that 'longer sprays' are luck based. Everybody knows that. My key point, which you are yet to address is: why this is a problem?
The current system has a high skill cap, is balanced and has worked for literally a decade. Why change it now?

[p5yc0runn3r]

fragnetic, on 10 February 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Why change it now?

Should I point you to the many posts that are complaining about the hits? It needs a change as 10 years of frustration and high blood pressure are too much

[strayA#fragnetic]

That's a ridiculous argument. Have you met people? People complain about all sorts of things. Being loud is not the same as being right.
I'll get worried when guys like shans, hemp and camaroz think the game is broken.


I pose the question again. Why change it now?

This post has been edited by fragnetic: 10 February 2014 - 02:05 PM

[p5yc0runn3r]

Because now it is changed. Not then but now. If it was changed in a year's time, you would ask the same question. Resistance to change is normal and you still do not understand that this is a test beta where anything could change.

[strayA#fragnetic]

My legitimate concerns about weapon balance and competitive viability are being dismissed as 'resistance to change.'
Instead of answering my question you instead resort to ad hominems. I obviously understand that this is a beta. I understand what a beta is for. Why anything needs to change has been my question from the beginning. Unless you can address this issue then i really don't think there's anything to be gained from continued discussion.

[p5yc0runn3r]

I personally do not think you have tried it much. I would assume you need at least 10 good sessions to judge. We are saying, try it and give your feedback and not ask why the change is needed. Besides no conversation = no communication = misunderstanding.

[strayA#fragnetic]

Here you go again. Making it about me instead of answering my question. I'm checking out until you can demonstrate that you can take criticism.